tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post4137029025722525351..comments2024-02-10T03:17:37.879-05:00Comments on Dave Richards - City of Largo Work Blog: HP 5735, DisappointsDave Richardshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06403055794363134691noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-57538058011830959252009-11-10T15:07:13.839-05:002009-11-10T15:07:13.839-05:00Thanks for your reply Dave.
( i don't want to...Thanks for your reply Dave.<br /><br />( i don't want to criticize , just was wondering about that ).<br /><br />Thanks for sharing your expertise in deploying solutions in large-scale.<br /><br />Greetings from argentina.ombzzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09271562767117227496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-705196307783123552009-11-09T08:12:02.875-05:002009-11-09T08:12:02.875-05:00I knew glxgears was not a benchmark going into the...I knew glxgears was not a benchmark going into the project. In this specific case it was a fit for showing HP identical hardware running different operating systems. I was able to test Lenny and Etch on the 5735 and compare it against the 5725. It also was the only thing that I could easily get to HP for their own testing.<br /><br />The Compiz benchmark did not help me at all in this case, HP has no way to run it. That is especially true when you consider that I'm running a stable version of Compiz from last year on the production machine. No way to replicate it outside of this building; which we wanted them to do.<br /><br />Jorge: We actually would have been content buying the 5725 for many years to come. It's smoking fast, stable and reliable. So your statement is completely true. What is expensive in enterprise use is having *different* hardware. I'd rather have 100% of the same model than some people being on the latest and greatest.<br /><br />ombzzz: The 3D desktop has helped us greatly believe it or not. The issue of running and navigating through multiple windows and using workspaces is a difficult concept for many 'regular users'. About 70% of our users have enabled 3D effects, and it's entirely optional; and off by default. The users love the cube, and use it all the time.<br /><br />anonymous: Thanks for the words. I just kind of post the things that are working here, and if they help other people that's great.Dave Richardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06403055794363134691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-12751732922128387562009-11-08T13:26:09.248-05:002009-11-08T13:26:09.248-05:00It'd be great if you commentators could either...It'd be great if you commentators could either praise Dave for his Open Source application in business or provide constructive criticism / ideas for making his job easier, rather than attack him for doing a simple non-scientific test just because it was quick and easy. Ombzzz, follow his blog: Compiz isn't for everyone, the users get to choose if they want it or not. Some people / power users can be more efficient with such a 3D desktop if they know how to use it properly.<br /><br />DAVE: KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK<br /><br />I completely agree with Jorge E. Gómez, the end of life on thin clients comes too soon with HP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-48143108293976812782009-11-07T22:57:50.964-05:002009-11-07T22:57:50.964-05:00Sorry Dave let me ask this question?
Why do you n...Sorry Dave let me ask this question?<br /><br />Why do you need Compiz? I understand that Compiz is only eye candy for the (desktop) home user; i can't imagine its use in a work environment.ombzzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09271562767117227496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-84992954616601916862009-11-07T14:33:41.379-05:002009-11-07T14:33:41.379-05:00I believe HP don't understand that the thincli...I believe HP don't understand that the thinclient business is very different from their laptop or desktop units.<br /><br />They keep revving the models more often than thinclient customers would like them to. <br /><br />We value stability above new features, and would probably keep buying the same model for years instead of upgrading an installed base of changing the OS to keep up with newer video and network devices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-1846953789532282992009-11-07T03:06:22.167-05:002009-11-07T03:06:22.167-05:00damn, of course it's Debian, d'oh. Don'...damn, of course it's Debian, d'oh. Don't think they have modesetting on yet. Never mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-46276774153931192442009-11-07T03:05:45.612-05:002009-11-07T03:05:45.612-05:00In addition to all the 'glxgears is not a benc...In addition to all the 'glxgears is not a benchmark', which is entirely true, I forget what distro you're using, but if it enables kernel modesetting for the radeon driver by default you might try testing with it disabled. Performance is currently known to be worse in the KMS case than the UMS case, on most Radeon hardware, with current driver releases.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-81201936149401038392009-11-07T01:26:29.415-05:002009-11-07T01:26:29.415-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-44717249571669095872009-11-06T23:40:34.343-05:002009-11-06T23:40:34.343-05:00If you want to benchmark compiz, benchmark it usin...If you want to benchmark compiz, benchmark it using the benchmark plugin. Don't use something else, that runs faster than refresh rate (and thus is sufficiently fast in all your numbers), and *doesn't use any of the paths that are problematic for compiz performance*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-64684398612447070002009-11-06T11:23:38.061-05:002009-11-06T11:23:38.061-05:00sudo apt-get install phoronix-test-suite or go her...sudo apt-get install phoronix-test-suite or go here<br />http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/ to get reliable, repeatable benchmarks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-25769975192919950942009-11-06T10:27:01.480-05:002009-11-06T10:27:01.480-05:00infenwe: Understand about glxgears. I tested over ...infenwe: Understand about glxgears. I tested over multiple days and with multiple samples. I had to use something that HP could replicate on their side as well. They don't have Compiz and it's hard to explain "too slow" with no numbers. The FPSs that I got seemed to correlate with the speed of Compiz. The 5735 felt like it was running at half speed compared to the 5725, and these numbers reflected that.Dave Richardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06403055794363134691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29399536.post-19679680233590732062009-11-06T10:19:50.853-05:002009-11-06T10:19:50.853-05:00How many times does this have to be repeated? glxg...How many times does this have to be repeated? glxgears is not, was never intented to be, and never will be a benchmark application. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=glxgears" rel="nofollow">GIYF</a>.Infenwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07002044887164422742noreply@blogger.com